Even though we’re going to be discussing Doms for the most part, there is really more to this question. Basically, what it’s asking is: If I need something I can’t get in my marriage, is it okay to find it elsewhere.
This stemmed from an email I received last week with the question in the title, but as I started thinking about it, I realized that is a small part of a much bigger conversation. And there’s a lot there that I’m not going to get into because it’s out of my focus.
It does make this more complicated though, so it’s going to be a two-parter. Part one will discuss my own experiences and how we deal with it as poly people. Part two will discuss relationships in general where one partner is vanilla and the other has to reach outside of the relationship to have needs met.
The short answer to that question is yes, you can absolutely have a Dom outside of your marriage. Many people do. I am married and I have two Doms, neither of them is my husband. My first husband was vanilla. My current husband (R) isn’t vanilla.
With both of these marriages I’ve had Dominants outside. In fact, pretty much the entire time I’ve been married I’ve had D/s partners outside of the marriage. I’ve never hidden it. It was always discussed and open.
It does add complications to my life. There are moments when it’s almost a tug-of-war between what my partner wants and what my Doms want.
It becomes a bit of a balancing act. As poly people we all understand this, and work to make things run smoothly. Sometimes there are speedbumps that have to be talked through, but my situation is more complicated than most because I have two Doms.
The more people you add to your life the more problems you’ll have. But in general things go pretty well and most conflicts are easily resolved around here. My husband and I are both kinky people and we do play together, but my preference is not to submit to a romantic partner.
In my marriage I need to feel at least equal in all decisions and many times I need to be the one making the decisions because I have more life experience. That doesn’t leave room for the kind of submission I need, which is based around rules and punishment more than bedroom fun.
My husband and I have been together for about thirteen years. We were free to legally marry five years ago when I divorced from my first husband. Prior to that we’d all lived together for several years. I considered them both my husbands at that time.
In the beginning with R we had a D/s relationship, but things quickly grew more romantic. He wanted dates and sappy sweet moments. I explained to him that I didn’t think managing both would work but that he could choose which he preferred.
He decided that he wanted to be my romantic partner. I honestly think was the best choice. We were meant to be partners and this relationship with him is much more fulfilling than a D/s one would have been. He is the most important person in my life.
I don’t actually talk about him much here because he’s also a private person and doesn’t really feel comfortable with being a star on my blog. (Which is understandable) And of course, since so much of what I write here is about D/s and submission it tends to not really involve him—though he can be extremely toppy when his protective instincts engage.
The key to making it all work is communication. I’ve said that on here a million times for a million reasons and it’s still true. I don’t believe in keeping secrets from anyone I’m in a relationship—unless they want me to.
Which means sometimes your partner may want to know about your other relationships and what kind they are. But they may not want to hear all of the details of what you do together. This can be especially true if your partner is vanilla.
They might understand that you have these needs they can’t fill, but that doesn’t mean they want to hear about you being tied up, gagged, and paddled until you sob. Having good communication skills means setting limits for what you need/want to know as well as what you don’t.
When I married my vanilla husband, I was young and new to the scene. Most of my experience was online through roleplay and a couple of short long-distance relationships. I thought that I wanted a dominant husband.
My vanilla husband tried to be the Dom I wanted, but he was apathetic about it. It was half-hearted at best because it wasn’t his thing. He was willing to do the bare minimum, but when I expressed frustration and asked him to do things different, he just wasn’t interested.
We had discussed and agreed to an open relationship before we married. There were rules to ensure we put each other first. For instance, we needed to meet the people each of us was seeing with a kind of veto power. So, I began to look outside my marriage, with his full knowledge, for someone who suited my needs better.
For my part I was always very open and communicative. He met, whenever possible, anyone I was seeing—either romantically or in a D/s context. Sometimes he participated too.
I’ve always felt, personally, that this was the best way to manage multiple relationships. For me there was no need for secrecy and in general I don’t believe in hiding relationships from your partner, which most people would say makes it cheating.
However—what I’ve done isn’t always possible for other people. Sometimes being open and honest about kink doesn’t work, even with the people who should support you the most.
When I think about the bigger relationship picture here, I feel like I want to say … that not only is finding a Dom outside of your marriage okay, but if you have any needs and your spouse is unwilling, uninterested, or unable to meet then it’s okay to find another way to fill them. There are caveats here obviously.
But you deserve to be happy. You deserve to feel complete.
Marriage should support you. It should bolster you up and make you happy. But it doesn’t magically fill all your needs. Your partner can be amazing. You might love them with all your heart and still be incompatible in some ways.
That doesn’t mean you have to throw the marriage out and start over. There are sometimes very good reasons for that marriage, including the fact that you love each other.
But needs don’t just vanish. They don’t go away. You can push them down and forget about them for a while, but they will come back stronger than ever when you least expect it.
If your need is something that isn’t going to damage or harm other people but just make your life more fulfilled, then there’s no reason why you shouldn’t be able to have it. And that’s regardless of whether or not the person you marry can give it to you.
This is honestly the whole basis for poly relationships. And this particular problem is one that can be solved entirely by having a polyamory understanding with your spouse or partner. But that’s not always possible, for many reasons so… next week, part two will focus mostly on kinky people who are in a committed monogamous relationship with a vanilla person.



I like that you shared about your own lifestyle. I am not jealous and I would be happy in a poly relationship I think, but have never been in one, so I was interested in reading about yours. I am glad that you are doing well in your relationship, according to how you write about it. I read your part 2 first btw. Take care and stay safe. Hugs
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so im stuck im in a situation where im married for 10 year and im into daddy doms and doms i have tried the dynamic w my husband but he’s more soft dom I guess i tried explaining to him he says he under stands my need but I don’t think so what do I do i have this strong need for a daddy dom or just a dominate for my submissive side I try to move it that feeling in the back of my mine but still it’s a struggle what do I do
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If I were you, I would probably talk to your husband and see how he would feel about you having a Daddy Dom on the side. He can’t fill your needs in this way, but maybe he’d be okay with someone else doing it. Especially since DDlg doesn’t have to be sexual. If he’s willing to consider it, you could come up with some rules between you about how a relationship like that would work, and then look into seeing if you could find a Dom who would be interested.
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so basically, as you are equal partner to your husband, but submissive to some other guy, it gives your husband and Dom equal rank in decision making? What a wonderful situation to be in for him
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Again, you don’t seem to understand how D/s dynamics work. Everything should be discussed, boundaries should be set. If your husband is not okay with sharing than none of this is going to work anyway. Some men actually enjoy sharing and I listed a number of ways that this could work. Your partner has JUST as much right to have boundaries and limits in this as anyone else.
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I would say that a partner has more right to set boundaries than some stranger. Stranger might opt out if they feel limited, but at least for me it would be wild for a spouse to need to negotiate and ask permission of a stranger on what they can do in a relationship.
And no, I’m not in such an arrangement as you most likely already deduced. Would you mind giving an example of a healthy extent of how much a Dom could interfere? I searched but there is everything and nothing at the same time on the matter ‘what fits you’ is no answer for me. I’m curious how exactly that work on ‘average’ in a healthy relationship. How much does the spouse need to surrender. How much is the sub spouse away. How much the dynamic is interfering with a ‘regular’ marital life
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The Dom can’t interfere at all unless you and your spouse allow it. What they can do is manage the things that all three of you have agreed on. For me, most of my D/s relationships were discipline-based. I need help managing things so I don’t get stuck in executive disfunction. And most of my relationships have also been long distance.
So, I can give you an example but honestly every relationship is unique. Your spouse might not ever go anywhere. Maybe they never even meet and it’s all online. Maybe he’s across town and she sees him a couple hours a week. It all depends.
For me, I have a list of rules. Most of them are health and safety rules. There is no reason in the world they would ever even affect my husband since he also wants me healthy right? Sleeping a certain amount every day, drinking a certain amount of water, having healthy meals, etc. I do these things, and my husband doesn’t really even think about my Doms controlling anything, because they are just normal things I should be doing anyway.
There are occasional rare times when what I’ve been told to do conflicts with what he wants. For instance, he wants to go out for the day, but I have a deadline that I need to be working on, and I can’t leave the house until it’s done. I probably wouldn’t even mention my Dom to him, because the reality is being home and working is what I should be doing anyway. My Dom hasn’t taken anything from him. My job has, and he understands that.
If I have scheduled time to spend with my Dom and my husband happens to want to do something at the same time I simply tell him I can’t because I already made plans, and then we schedule what he wants to do at a different time. This is no different than if I’d planned to go out to dinner with a friend. Or I had a doctor appointment, etc. There is no reason it should ever ‘interfere’ in your married life unless your spouse is being unreasonable on purpose.
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that sounds more like a coach than Dom, then I’m wondering why was that difficult for your spouse to accomplish? Sounds like a basic care for someone close. In needing to ask Dom for permission I’m thinking situations like orgasm control etc. Or having 2+days weekly for Dom. Then when you subtract time for daily logistics of life, your partner will have barely any quality time
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Sometimes part of being a Dom is being a coach.
You seem to have one very set idea of what a Dom is, and a lot of your assumptions are based on this, but that’s not how it works. A Dom has needs and wants just like a sub. They try to find a sub who has mirrored needs and wants so that they match. It’s a fictional idea that every BDSM relationship includes sex, plenty don’t. A sub who needs discipline and punishment looks for a Dom who enjoys giving that kind of control, who enjoys punishing. That’s all there is to it.
As far as why someone’s spouse couldn’t fill that need… there are five hundred answers to that. Maybe the spouse doesn’t want to. Maybe the spouse is a submissive themselves. Maybe the spouse was raised to think hitting a woman was wrong, and even though this is consensual they struggle to move past that, so are unable to discipline. Maybe the sub simple doesn’t want the dynamic in their marriage. It can be incredibly hard to balance submitting to a spouse, while still being completely equal. Some people can make it work, some can’t.
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